Matt Wilhelm joins the show to give updates on what he’s hearing about Ohio State football’s summer workouts.

Of course, it helps his hearing In the fact that his son Mason is a freshman offensive lineman on the team.

And what Mason keeps telling his dad is that those summer workouts orchestrated by Mickey Marotti and staff are “Hard.”

Matt Wilhelm says that’s good as he speaks with Clay and Tim on this episode.

The good thing is it’s never hard talking with Matt Wilhelm.